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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="Nez"]I saw that article today. And I agree with Syera with this one. I'm more concerned about the quality, not the quantity, of the female characters, leading or supporting.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:06 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The image of Genie furiously flipping through the script to find that part amuses me <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:38 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I thought she WAS OK with it...not HAPPY about it, but accepting. Neither of them LIKES it, but they both know it's right. <br /> <br />Though, your script edit is hilarious. <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> Thank goodness ONE of the characters keeps a script handy, lol.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>APK</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:29 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I wonder what he would've done if she was okay with him letting her go in the first movie? <br /> <br />"I guess this is...good-bye?" <img src="images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" border="0" /> <br /> <br />"Well...It's for the best. Good-bye." <br /> <br />"Oh, um..." :shifts uncomfortably:: "Really?" <br /> <br />"Yep. Bye!" <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Genie: ::flips through Aladdin script::</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:15 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinsGenie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Especially with the fact that on that quest, he might not come back and could have been killed. They knew the risks and still continued on. That's love right there <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Exactly. She doesn't just slink off and say "Oh, Aladdin, I love you, do whatever you want; I don't care." She understands EXACTLY what she risks letting him go it alone. But it's what's right for him, and she doesn't go along with what's right for him because he's a man, but because he's a person who needs to do this on his own. I think in a way she even puts aside her feelings for him so she can view the situation objectively. (I can even imagine Aladdin ASKING her to go and her having to convince HIM that he has to do it on his own, for himself...I think I wrote a oneshot along those lines YEARS ago that I never posted.) She loves him, and is willing to let him go. Just like he was willing to let her go not only so he could free Genie, but also not have to lie to her forever, at the end of the first movie. LOVE.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:57 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">"The way in which she supports Aladdin and his quest to find his father isn't a passive standing behind him...it really takes a LOT of courage on her part." <br /> <br />Especially with the fact that on that quest, he might not come back and could have been killed. They knew the risks and still continued on. That's love right there <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:56 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">^ That was me...wow, I hadn't checked "Automatically log me in" since the reboot, I guess. <img src="images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:51 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Nez wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br /> <br />At least in "KoT", she sucker-punched a few thieves.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I was a little bummed the VERY FIRST time I watched KoT by how little screen time Jasmine had, but when I watched it again (you know, about 10 minutes after it ended the first time...), it didn't bother me at all. I think that even if she's not PHYSICALLY portrayed on the screen in a whole lot of the movie, she has a TREMENDOUS role in the film, and not just because she gets to punch a few thieves and show why you don't eff with a bride on her wedding day. The way in which she supports Aladdin and his quest to find his father isn't a passive standing behind him...it really takes a LOT of courage on her part. This search is something that means a lot to him, and she helps him gain the courage to seek the answers that he in not quite so many words tells her that he's afraid to find. I think the fact that she DOESN'T go WITH him on this journey is a stronger statement than if she had done so. I guess you could say that it's 'not her place' to go with him, but not because she's a woman, but because this is Aladdin's personal discovery. <br /> <br />I think her most significant off-screen function is the fact that she is the reason that Aladdin doesn't run off with Cassim after being found out by the guards. His decision in that scene is HUGE, but he has to go back because "Jasmine is there" and he "won't walk out on [her]." I think that even if she's not in the scene, she is VERY much a presence...she has made SO MUCH of an impact on Aladdin and when a character can be absent from the action and such a driving force in these events...so much of a positive influence on another character...that's a mark of strength. (I'm sure Jasmine was very moved when Aladdin told her he came back for her...assuming he did, of course, and I think he would.) <br /> <br />Anyway...yeah, I read an article about that study in the paper the morning before I went to Disneyland. The version in the Philadelphia Inquirer mentioned Aladdin. I smiled to see that our movie was remembered, then proceeded to shrug off the article. The more-guys-than-girls-in-movies-I-watched-as-a-kid (and heck, still watch a LOT) never bugged me...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Hourglass</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:34 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The above message was me... btw. <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:33 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I honestly don't agree with that article at all. I'm with y'all... it's quality versus quantity. <br /> <br />That, and I'm quite old fashioned (and I admit it) and I do find that male protagonist based movies are my favorites. I mean, for me to enjoy a movie I like the cliche idea of male protagonist and female protagonist fighting together, but based around the male protagonist's needs or wants. I am a girl people, and no I'm not trying to say I'm some docile, obediant chic, but I just find that a bit more... I dunno... I like it. <br /> <br />Anyway, you've got characters like Mulan, Ariel, Jasmine, Pocohontas... blah blah blah... but did the article mention them?! No! They just go and find Bo Peep... and then it's all "meh meh meh women are mis-used..." <br /> <br />Pathetic, if you ask me.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:05 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">They must not have looked at Shrek <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:45 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Meesh wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Yeah or a headbang or kick in the nuts. Then she makes this dazed face like she did something abnormal. haha just listing off the stereotypes.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You know, I'm sure I've seen something like that somewhere - I just can't remember where. <br /> <br />Maybe we should make a list of Hollywood Rules of Feminine Combat? <img src="http://www.springhole.net/smileys/lol.gif" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:57 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I don't think there was enough Jasmine either. I mean, this was THEIR wedding. Although, I do understand. The story was also about him finding his father and her being around to go find him would have been semi-pointless.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Meesh</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:48 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />*Shrugs* It doesn't bother me much. 'Sides, it's <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">Aladdin</span> and the King of Theives</span>, not <span style="font-style: italic">Aladdin, Jasmine, and the King of Theives</span>.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Well she is my favorite character to watch, and I feel there wasn't enough. I guess it is just a matter of opinion. <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />That. Was. Awesome. It was about BLOODY TIME a female got to sucker punch! It drives me crazy - so often, a woman is up against a man and the best she can do is hit him with a pathetic little slap. Grr.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yeah or a headbang or kick in the nuts. Then she makes this dazed face like she did something abnormal. haha just listing off the stereotypes. <br /> <br />><></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>APK</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:20 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Darn it. That was me as guest.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:01 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">They chose 101 films (not a lot by the way) that just happened to be lacking female leads? Of course they're going to ignore the other movies, for the sake of their arguement. <img src="images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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