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Marisa
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| Hourglass wrote: |
| At least they redeemed themselves in KOT... sorta. |
Not just animation-wise, but plot-wise as well 
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Nez
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| Marisa wrote: |
| Hourglass wrote: |
| At least they redeemed themselves in KOT... sorta. |
Not just animation-wise, but plot-wise as well |
Yeah, also the casting of Jerry Orbach as Sa'luk was good, but of course, the introduction of the thief with the bad teeth!
*purrs*
Did anyone else noticed that Cassim's thief outfit kinda looks like Mozy's costume (the whole color scheme thing)?
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Jas
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| Nez wrote: |
| Did anyone else noticed that Cassim's thief outfit kinda looks like Mozy's costume (the whole color scheme thing)? |
I had never thought of it before, but yeah it kind of does.
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AladdinsGenie
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| ROJ is one of the worst-animated sequels in Disney history... let's face it. |
Well, we were the first one, so I guess they were still testing out whether that whole sequel thing would work out. Not that it's an excuse, but I don't think they would want to spend millions of dollars on animating a video/idea that no one wanted. The animation in the Disney sequels in general have gotten better, but unfortunately we had ours in the mid-nineties so they were still working on getting better, which is why KOT looks somewhat better than ROJ. |
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Hourglass
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Jas
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Just thought about one from the original - in the scene right after Jasmine and Jafar kiss, how could Jafar see Al in her crown? Since she had her head tilted up to look at Jafar it wouldn't have realistically reflected him on the ground - it probably would have reflected the wall or ceiling.
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Hourglass
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Princess Jas wrote: |
| Just thought about one from the original - in the scene right after Jasmine and Jafar kiss, how could Jafar see Al in her crown? Since she had her head tilted up to look at Jafar it wouldn't have realistically reflected him on the ground - it probably would have reflected the wall or ceiling. |
There were alot of mistakes in the original as well... but there weren't as major/noticeable as in ROJ and KOT. Such as when Jafar is reading the scroll to the sultan... he reads from left to right, when in Arabia, they read from right to left... little things.
They needed some way for Jafar to notice Aladdin, and using Jasmine just seemed... alright.
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Jas
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| Hourglass wrote: |
| They needed some way for Jafar to notice Aladdin, and using Jasmine just seemed... alright. |
Of course - it's just a minor technicality.
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Meesh
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Hourglass wrote: |
ROJ is one of the worst-animated sequels in Disney history... let's face it.
At least they redeemed themselves in KOT... sorta. |
But I believe it was the first sequel and was the one that actually started the whole Disney sequel thing. |
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Meesh
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Marisa wrote: |
| Hourglass wrote: |
| At least they redeemed themselves in KOT... sorta. |
Not just animation-wise, but plot-wise as well |
yes RoJ has a gaping plothole. They found the sultan's torn turban in Aladdin's room, while they knew very well that Aladdin and the sultan were out in an oasis. When Aladdin came home, they blamed the torn turban on him, even though he had been out all day! |
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AladdinsGenie
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Meesh wrote: |
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yes RoJ has a gaping plothole. They found the sultan's torn turban in Aladdin's room, while they knew very well that Aladdin and the sultan were out in an oasis. When Aladdin came home, they blamed the torn turban on him, even though he had been out all day! |
That whole thing could work out if you assumed a few things and filled in missing scenes that went on behind the scenes
-Assume the guards didn't know the sultan left with Aladdin and that both of them left. Stretching it a bit that they didn't know where he was at, but it can happen. And, it's never really shown that any of the guards knew the sultan was gone to begin with.
-Fill-in that while Aladdin and the sultan were gone, Jafar locked up Jasmine with Genie and Abu who he captured earlier (all of which know where Aladdin and the sultan are).
-Fill in Jafar bringing the sultan back and locking him up. Takes his hat, slashes it and turns into Jasmine.
-Fill in "Jasmine" shows Rasoul the hat and he orders a search for Aladdin and the sultan. That's why I think the guards might not know the sultan left to begin with because then it would make no sense that she found a slashed turban and they know the sultan left with his turban on.
-Assume that when Rasoul accused Aladdin of the murder of the sultan that he thought Aladdin just got done getting rid of the sultan's body or something. Again, they don't know where they went, so as far as he knew, he just got back from the place where he killed him.
Now we are at the part where "Jasmine" says they found the turban in his room and he'll die at dawn (which is my favorite Jafar moment because he psychologically plays around with Aladdin's head. Priceless). So it can work out, you just have to think a bit, which I personally don't like doing  |
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Nanuk
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...it was kinda hard for me to watch RoJ, mostly because of the animation, and also because of how they replaced Robin as genie...But I liked the songs ^^ But, wow, how Jasmine's face disturbed me when she sang "You're calling my bluff" in "Forget about Love." O_O ...I also didn't understand why at the end the genie just sat there when he could fly?
I think my favorite Disney sequel is The Lion King 1 1/2...or, actually, an "inbetweenquel" x) "What this place lacks in shade it makes up for with searing heat and blinding sunshine" 
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Iago
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| Nanuk wrote: |
| But, wow, how Jasmine's face disturbed me when she sang "You're calling my bluff" in "Forget about Love." O_O |
 you to?? she scared the *beep* outa me when i saw that scene
*shudders*
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Meesh
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Wow AG
Point taken, very well thought out/
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Vortex Dragon
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| I found some outtakes in the original Aladdin too. Like when Jafar gets smashed by the door in the "Prince Ali" song, when he's holding the door shut, Iago's not on his shoulder, but when they show him embedded in the wall, Iago's there again. And when Jafar puts the lamp down on the arm of the throne, it's on the right, but when Aladdin reaches for it, it's on the left arm. |
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