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AladdinsGenie Genie of the Messageboard

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: Another article |
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I'll stop with the articles eventually, but I found this interesting since it applies to our movie...
LOS ANGELES - Male characters outnumbered females 3-to-1 overall in top-grossing G-rated films from 1990 to 2004, according to a study whose sponsors say the disparity diminishes the importance of women in children's eyes.
"We're showing kids a world that's very scantly populated with women and female characters," said actress Geena Davis, founder of See Jane, a program of the advocacy group Dads & Daughters that encourages balanced gender representation in entertainment for children.
In the 101 animated and live-action films examined, 28 percent of speaking characters were female, and just 17 percent of people in crowd scenes were female, researchers found in the study released Thursday by See Jane.
"It's important for what kids watch that as far as possible, they see the real world reflected, to see men and women, boys and girls, sharing the space," said Davis, co-star of the female-empowerment film "Thelma & Louise" and star of TV's "Commander in Chief" in which she plays the U.S. president. "They should see female characters taking up half the planet, which we do."
Davis and others involved with the study titled "Where the Girls Aren't" planned to discuss the findings at a forum Thursday night in Los Angeles. They said they hope to use the research to push Hollywood toward giving female characters equal time on screen and encourage parents to vote with their wallets by choosing films offering balanced gender representation.
Spokesmen at Disney, which had the biggest share of films in the study, Paramount and Universal said studio executives declined to comment.
The results came as little surprise to researchers. Studies have found similar imbalances between male and female roles in films for adults and on TV shows, and anyone who channel-surfs or goes to the movies regularly knows anecdotally that men dominate the screen.
"There seems to be nothing new under the sun here," said Stacy Smith, associate professor at the University of Southern California's Annenberg School of Communication, who oversaw the study. "The only thing different is it's G-rated films."
(G-rated means: General audiences. All ages admitted.)
Of the 101 films, 71 percent were animated or partly animated features. Among the films studied: "Finding Nemo," "The Lion King," "Monsters, Inc.," "Chicken Run," "The Princess Diaries," "Babe," "The Santa Clause 2" and "Toy Story."
Joe Kelly, co-founder of Dads & Daughters, said as much as he loves "Toy Story," the study made him think about the movie differently. The movie has a positive message about two characters Tom Hanks' Woody and Tim Allen's Buzz Lightyear overcoming their differences and working together, but it does have a flaw, Kelly said.
"It wasn't until the study that I went back and realized there's only one toy that's a female character, and it's Bo-Peep. She's standing at the window going, `Oh, Woody, don't hurt yourself,'" Kelly said. "Not that I want `Toy Story' to be changed. I don't think there should be any sort of gender formula. But there are other movies to be made with powerful messages featuring female characters."
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Syera Cynical Scribe

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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You know, I think it would help muchly if people would stop worrying about male/female representation.
Personally, a lack of female characters doesn't really bother me that much. What DOES bother me is when a perfectly good female character who SHOULD serve a purpose is misused or downplayed. (To see this poked fun at, watch Galaxy Quest. To see an example of this in its prime, watch Fantastic Voyage.) _________________
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AladdinsGenie Genie of the Messageboard

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Syera wrote: |
What DOES bother me is when a perfectly good female character who SHOULD serve a purpose is misused or downplayed. |
I rant about that sooooo much
I'm not really worried about it either. I watch something because of the plot; not because there are more boys than girls. Then again, a lot of the things I do seem to enjoy are male dominated but a lot of the fan base is females, so yeah  |
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APK Sinister Snack Fairy
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Grr...
Jasmine kicks butt. The populous men in her world are all air-heads (lovable, yet air heads)
I don't agree with that article at all. |
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Nez Eccentric Papyrus Jockey

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I saw that article today.
And I agree with Syera with this one. I'm more concerned about the quality, not the quantity, of the female characters, leading or supporting. _________________
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Meesh Magic Carpet

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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I often notice when there is no good female part in a movie. Sometimes it turns me off as far as the movie goes, but there are about as many movies with no good male part as well. I don't think it's really worth ranting about.
As far as Jasmine goes, I don't think she is threatened as much. Sure she's often a damsel in distress or given a minor role (which i admit rreeeeaallly bothers me in KoT) but she is kick butt and won't allow herself to be "a prize to be won" or give in easily.
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Nez Eccentric Papyrus Jockey

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Meesh wrote: |
As far as Jasmine goes, I don't think she is threatened as much. Sure she's often a damsel in distress or given a minor role (which i admit rreeeeaallly bothers me in KoT) but she is kick butt and won't allow herself to be "a prize to be won" or give in easily.
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Meesh Magic Carpet

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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"This was for ruining my wedding."
That etc. is what keeps my happy.
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Syera Cynical Scribe

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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As far as Jasmine goes, I don't think she is threatened as much. Sure she's often a damsel in distress or given a minor role (which i admit rreeeeaallly bothers me in KoT) but she is kick butt and won't allow herself to be "a prize to be won" or give in easily. |
*Shrugs* It doesn't bother me much. 'Sides, it's Aladdin and the King of Theives, not Aladdin, Jasmine, and the King of Theives.
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"This was for ruining my wedding."
That etc. is what keeps my happy.
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That. Was. Awesome. It was about BLOODY TIME a female got to sucker punch! It drives me crazy - so often, a woman is up against a man and the best she can do is hit him with a pathetic little slap. Grr. _________________
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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They chose 101 films (not a lot by the way) that just happened to be lacking female leads? Of course they're going to ignore the other movies, for the sake of their arguement.  |
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APK Sinister Snack Fairy
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Darn it. That was me as guest. |
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Meesh Magic Carpet

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Syera wrote: |
*Shrugs* It doesn't bother me much. 'Sides, it's Aladdin and the King of Theives, not Aladdin, Jasmine, and the King of Theives. |
Well she is my favorite character to watch, and I feel there wasn't enough. I guess it is just a matter of opinion.
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That. Was. Awesome. It was about BLOODY TIME a female got to sucker punch! It drives me crazy - so often, a woman is up against a man and the best she can do is hit him with a pathetic little slap. Grr. |
Yeah or a headbang or kick in the nuts. Then she makes this dazed face like she did something abnormal. haha just listing off the stereotypes.
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AladdinsGenie Genie of the Messageboard

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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: |
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I don't think there was enough Jasmine either. I mean, this was THEIR wedding. Although, I do understand. The story was also about him finding his father and her being around to go find him would have been semi-pointless. |
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Syera Cynical Scribe

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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Meesh wrote: |
Yeah or a headbang or kick in the nuts. Then she makes this dazed face like she did something abnormal. haha just listing off the stereotypes. |
You know, I'm sure I've seen something like that somewhere - I just can't remember where.
Maybe we should make a list of Hollywood Rules of Feminine Combat?  _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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They must not have looked at Shrek  |
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